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		<title>Comment on Amazonimation – the Writer as Marketer and the Decline of Good Fiction by jpon</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Couldn&#039;t have said it better. I get plenty of those queries too. They usually come in so sure that now that they&#039;ve written and self-published a novel, that fame and fortune (and publicity from reviewers) are just around the corner. I have to admit I feel a little bad bursting those authors&#039; bubbles -- but with a little due diligence they would have known.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t have said it better. I get plenty of those queries too. They usually come in so sure that now that they&#8217;ve written and self-published a novel, that fame and fortune (and publicity from reviewers) are just around the corner. I have to admit I feel a little bad bursting those authors&#8217; bubbles &#8212; but with a little due diligence they would have known.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amazonimation – the Writer as Marketer and the Decline of Good Fiction by Marc Schuster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marc Schuster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen! As a reviewer myself -- and one whose primary interest is in small-press books -- I receive many titles from self-published authors who have bought into the myth that anyone can be a &quot;published author.&quot; By and large, these books are riddled with typos, and plagued by weak characters and underdeveloped or hackneyed plots. The text of one book I received consisted of a one-inch strip of words spanning each page, while the margins at the top and bottom of the each page stretched to over three inches. When I emailed the author to find out why his book was formatted so bizarrely, he said he didn&#039;t know; that&#039;s just what the print on demand service did with the text file he uploaded. None of this is to say that all self-published books are of poor quality, but it certainly suggests that the buyer needs to beware. And that the editorial process -- with all the maddening and disheartening rejection it entails -- might actually serve a purpose!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen! As a reviewer myself &#8212; and one whose primary interest is in small-press books &#8212; I receive many titles from self-published authors who have bought into the myth that anyone can be a &#8220;published author.&#8221; By and large, these books are riddled with typos, and plagued by weak characters and underdeveloped or hackneyed plots. The text of one book I received consisted of a one-inch strip of words spanning each page, while the margins at the top and bottom of the each page stretched to over three inches. When I emailed the author to find out why his book was formatted so bizarrely, he said he didn&#8217;t know; that&#8217;s just what the print on demand service did with the text file he uploaded. None of this is to say that all self-published books are of poor quality, but it certainly suggests that the buyer needs to beware. And that the editorial process &#8212; with all the maddening and disheartening rejection it entails &#8212; might actually serve a purpose!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amazonimation – the Writer as Marketer and the Decline of Good Fiction by Felicia Elam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Felicia Elam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stephanie, I agree. I have two nieces (14 and 15) who, in the past few months, have either asked me for a computer or they&#039;re saving money for one. The 14 y/o has been saving for over a year and with the $200 she&#039;s amassed, she is nowhere close to getting one.  Her parents are divorced and since that lowers everybody&#039;s standard of living, they aren&#039;t in a position to help her.  If I were to buy one or both of them computers, I&#039;d have to by four or five more for the other children and that is impossible.

I think the real questions are who controls literature and the publishing business and who has access to literature. There is also the question of whose stories are told and how broadly are they disseminated. With school and public libraries closing and/or cutting back services (the very insitutions that purchase the books that aren&#039;t bestsellers), those are questions that should bother anybody who writes. So far, the moneychangers have taken over the temple and there is no literary Jesus to drive them out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie, I agree. I have two nieces (14 and 15) who, in the past few months, have either asked me for a computer or they&#8217;re saving money for one. The 14 y/o has been saving for over a year and with the $200 she&#8217;s amassed, she is nowhere close to getting one.  Her parents are divorced and since that lowers everybody&#8217;s standard of living, they aren&#8217;t in a position to help her.  If I were to buy one or both of them computers, I&#8217;d have to by four or five more for the other children and that is impossible.</p>
<p>I think the real questions are who controls literature and the publishing business and who has access to literature. There is also the question of whose stories are told and how broadly are they disseminated. With school and public libraries closing and/or cutting back services (the very insitutions that purchase the books that aren&#8217;t bestsellers), those are questions that should bother anybody who writes. So far, the moneychangers have taken over the temple and there is no literary Jesus to drive them out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amazonimation – the Writer as Marketer and the Decline of Good Fiction by jpon</title>
		<link>http://joeponepinto.com/2012/02/18/amazonimation-the-writer-as-marketer-and-the-decline-of-good-fiction/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jpon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, time&#039;s up. I must respond to Stewart.

I&#039;ll ignore the unsubstantiated claims he makes about Jonathan Franzen, and go straight to the real issue here. Amazon and their ilk democratizing literature? Please. They are in business to make money. If they can do it by convincing hacks and wannabes to list their &quot;writing&quot; for sale, they will do it. If they could do it by restricting writing to a handful of elites, they would do that as well.

Except in rare cases every artist, musician, writer or craftsman spends years learning his/her trade, practicing every day until s/he has command of the genre, apprenticing to or becoming students of those who have established themselves in the field. But the message Amazon, Smashwords, Lulu and others send to the public is, “Hey! You don’t have to learn, you don’t have to practice. You don’t even have to write well. Upload your words to our site, cut us a percentage, and you, our friend, are a writer!” But downplaying the work and study that goes into any field cheapens it for all. Substitute doctor or lawyer for writer in that statement and listen to how ridiculous it sounds.

This whole business of &quot;everyone&#039;s talent or opinion is as important as everyone else&#039;s&quot; is a myth. That belief is a con blathered by corporations to get prospective customers to feel &quot;empowered&quot; and friendly towards whatever product or service they happen to be selling. Sure, opinions matter. &lt;i&gt;Responsible&lt;/i&gt; opinions, that is. And responsible opinions are forged with time, study and dedication to an issue.

What Amazon is introducing is not Democracy, it&#039;s an oligarchy, cleverly packaged to make it look like opportunity for wannabe writers, in particular those who can&#039;t be bothered to actually learn the craft. The Amazon system lumps all writers, good and bad, into a great pile of text stored in their database. Sitting on top, a collection of marketing and PR people churning out nonsense that has the ultimate goal of keeping the company in power, in position to dictate tastes, or lack of them, to the buying public. The new Medici are already here, Stewart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, time&#8217;s up. I must respond to Stewart.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll ignore the unsubstantiated claims he makes about Jonathan Franzen, and go straight to the real issue here. Amazon and their ilk democratizing literature? Please. They are in business to make money. If they can do it by convincing hacks and wannabes to list their &#8220;writing&#8221; for sale, they will do it. If they could do it by restricting writing to a handful of elites, they would do that as well.</p>
<p>Except in rare cases every artist, musician, writer or craftsman spends years learning his/her trade, practicing every day until s/he has command of the genre, apprenticing to or becoming students of those who have established themselves in the field. But the message Amazon, Smashwords, Lulu and others send to the public is, “Hey! You don’t have to learn, you don’t have to practice. You don’t even have to write well. Upload your words to our site, cut us a percentage, and you, our friend, are a writer!” But downplaying the work and study that goes into any field cheapens it for all. Substitute doctor or lawyer for writer in that statement and listen to how ridiculous it sounds.</p>
<p>This whole business of &#8220;everyone&#8217;s talent or opinion is as important as everyone else&#8217;s&#8221; is a myth. That belief is a con blathered by corporations to get prospective customers to feel &#8220;empowered&#8221; and friendly towards whatever product or service they happen to be selling. Sure, opinions matter. <i>Responsible</i> opinions, that is. And responsible opinions are forged with time, study and dedication to an issue.</p>
<p>What Amazon is introducing is not Democracy, it&#8217;s an oligarchy, cleverly packaged to make it look like opportunity for wannabe writers, in particular those who can&#8217;t be bothered to actually learn the craft. The Amazon system lumps all writers, good and bad, into a great pile of text stored in their database. Sitting on top, a collection of marketing and PR people churning out nonsense that has the ultimate goal of keeping the company in power, in position to dictate tastes, or lack of them, to the buying public. The new Medici are already here, Stewart.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amazonimation – the Writer as Marketer and the Decline of Good Fiction by Stephanie Barbé Hammer</title>
		<link>http://joeponepinto.com/2012/02/18/amazonimation-the-writer-as-marketer-and-the-decline-of-good-fiction/#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Barbé Hammer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 01:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loving the exchange here.  I think the technology question is complicated. Anecdotally I can report that I see a real gender/ethnicity gap with less privileged young folks.  The students whom I see repeatedly having computer problems and issues (including not having access to a computer or printer) are women of color.  My female students of color report not feeling confident with many computer programs and operations, and also talk about not being able to get access to the family computer because the brother, dad or uncle has first dibs.  So the &quot;fix&quot; to this may not be so simple.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loving the exchange here.  I think the technology question is complicated. Anecdotally I can report that I see a real gender/ethnicity gap with less privileged young folks.  The students whom I see repeatedly having computer problems and issues (including not having access to a computer or printer) are women of color.  My female students of color report not feeling confident with many computer programs and operations, and also talk about not being able to get access to the family computer because the brother, dad or uncle has first dibs.  So the &#8220;fix&#8221; to this may not be so simple.  Thanks.</p>
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